Oh those silly cho-keys

Virginia Tech has never and will never be considered a top tier college football program.

[hoard]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lpd_blue</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Virginia Tech has never and will never be considered a top tier college football program.</div></div>

I don't see many people saying they are a top-tier team. Even most Tech fans admit they are not an ELITE program. They have too many built-in limitations to ever be able to legitimately challenge for the national title more than once or twice a decade.

There are maybe a dozen schools that have absolutely no excuse not to win BIG in college football every year because they have all the built-in advantages needed (tradition, location, exposure, stadium/facilities, alumni support, money and administration commitment to football). Tech lacks some of these.

Those schools in no particular order IMO:

USC, Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Ohio State, Michigan, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Penn State, Notre Dame, Alabama.

To me, Tennessee and Miami are borderline members of this group because they lack one or two of the aforementioned advantages. Tennessee due to location (they have to recruit a little more out of their area than those other schools because they don't have as much in-state talent).

Like ND, Miami is a private school with a smaller alumni base, though they have a lot of national fans. Also their lack of facilities have been well-documented, though they do have a lot of alumni in the NFL that contribute financially.

[Stunner]

fsu= thugs

[imported_mega]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stunner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">fsu= thugs</div></div>

Different account given for shooting
Victor Harris said shots at his son's apartment came after a fight involving Hokies WR Justin Harper.
By Randy King

Virginia Tech cornerback Macho Harris told the media Monday night that the gunshots fired into his Blacksburg apartment early Sunday morning was a "random situation."

"I don't have any enemies or nothing like that," Harris said in a brief statement. "The shootings were very random ... "

Well, the account of the incident that his father, Victor, gave to the Richmond Times-Dispatch on Monday night suggested otherwise.

According to what he said was relayed by his son, the elder Harris told the Times-Dispatch that the incident was triggered by an earlier confrontation involving Tech wide receiver Justin Harper and another man at a Blacksburg nightclub. Victor Harris said his son told him that he broke up the confrontation and persuaded Harper to return with him to their Chasewood Downs apartment complex.

Upon their return to Harris' apartment, Harper then saw three men outside in a car who had followed them from the club. Soon thereafter, Harper peered outside of the sliding glass door of Harris' apartment to check and see if the men were still present. That's when the gunfire began. At least two of the shots fired by a 9mm gun by unknown suspects struck the apartment, blasting out the glass in the sliding door and the living room, where the two players were, according to Harris' father.

"They didn't have any idea that these guys were going to follow them. They thought it was over with," said Harris' father, whose 17-year-old son, Orlando, also was present in the apartment.

Blacksburg police Capt. Bruce Bradbery said Wednesday that police haven't talked with Macho Harris' father and would not say if the account police were given of the incident was the same as the one reported by the elder Harris to a Richmond Times-Dispatch reporter.

"What we were told is investigative information and not subject to release," he said.

Bradbery also wouldn't confirm the identity of the three Virginia Tech students he has said were in the apartment or whether Harris' younger brother was also there.

"It is the policy of the Blacksburg Police Department not to name the victims of violent crime for their protection," he said.

Bradbery declined to say if police have identified a motive or a suspect, citing an ongoing investigation.

Harris and Harper will both participate in the 10th-ranked Hokies' game against Miami at Lane Stadium.

Shawna Morrison contributed to this story

Video: Hokie football 2007

[beamer_ball]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stunner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">fsu= thugs </div></div>

All NCAA schools=thugs

[gcdevil22]

that story kinda sounds like Bryan Pata, guess that punk was a thug

or it sounds like the story of the Miami kid last year who shot back at a car who opened fire on a house

[sup-rbeast]

When it comes to thugs, VT and the U have drank from the same cup...the only difference is VT is still drinkin from it.

[imported_mega]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vthokie22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that story kinda sounds like Bryan Pata, guess that punk was a thug

or it sounds like the story of the Miami kid last year who shot back at a car who opened fire on a house</div></div>

First off, I wasnt even trying to start anything there Naismith, your boy just called out FSU which is comical, why didnt you comment on that arrest on page 1. Oh you had ball practice that day I know. Second, Pata wasnt even murdered in Miami or Coral Gables and third, your boys were fighting at a bar and went home, our boys were in their damn beds sleeping at 6am. Anyway, its like sup-rbeat says, everyone has their own problems, its just funny that a Tech fan would point out other programs problems.

"We are CHOKIES, WE will prevail, we WILL prevail, we will PREVAIL...we ARE Montgomery County Correctional Facility"

[CoeburnCane]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mega</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
"We are CHOKIES, WE will plea, we WILL parole, we will PLAY FOOTBALL...we ARE Montgomery County Correctional Facility"
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Classic, but fixed...see italics.

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Remember boys and girls, before you bash The U for having thugs--Tidewater ones are just as bad as S. Florida ones--there's no difference.

[BlueWahooChambordDevil]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CoeburnCane</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mega</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
"We are CHOKIES, WE will plea, we WILL parole, we will PLAY FOOTBALL...we ARE Montgomery County Correctional Facility"
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Classic, but fixed...see italics.

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Remember boys and girls, before you bash The U for having thugs--Tidewater ones are just as bad as S. Florida ones--there's no difference. </div></div>
sure theres a difference.......the ones in so fla get to be thugs in nicer weather [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]